Thankfully, we still have two more chances to stop this travesty of a bill. Those bastards. job creation they call it (bribery is such a dirty word). Are they doing town halls? The news of Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms selling Illinois gun dealers and gun owners down the river continues to spread among The People of The Gun. So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock Who Makes Rock River Arms? The innovation and embracing of modern ideas weve seen the last 10yrs (MSRs, suppressors, polymer everything, etc) never would have happened under Bill. Both are were on their way to selling over a quarter million of Springfield product this year. No they dont. But they were happy to allow their lobbyist to finagle them a carve out. Also, RRA derives the bulk of its money from government and LE contracts so youll have a really hard time bankrupting them with a civvie sales boycott. The rights of citizens that theyve agreed to negotiate away will NEVER be restored. Whats left after the hate which never leaves? Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Thats rolling over and showing your belly while wagging your tail. Its called doing business. Folks like me are willing to kill for them. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28141995/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/illinois-has-long-legacy-public-corruption/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_state_and_local_politicians_convicted_of_crimes. Katrina gun confiscation showed us what any civil conflict will have as the belligerents, LEOs / Feds posing as LEOs giving you a hard choice.and a few Bundy-style standoffs. People are watching everything the government and companies are doing now. Good luck with that RRA. The vast majority of companies can do what they want to, but have have to insist that firearms companies fight for the 2nd EVEN WHEN ITS NOT IN THEIR COMPLETE SELF INTEREST TO DO SO. NOW all I can think is SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! And no one calls or emails the company that is one of the largest contributor the IFMA group. It weighs 10.2 pounds empty and is 43.5 inches long. Current employees would be welcone to come along, otherwise there are many good and talented Americans looking for work. Rock River Arms is one of the largest manufacturers of AR-15 rifles in the United States. Its a FACT that those brands are twice the price as Ruger. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins.. No more. With the Hillarys loss there is no longer a looming gun ban on the horizon and the firearm industry and market is facing a correction. Typical narrow minded hypocrites. If they are both single stage, they will basically feel the same. One of the few cases of sincere contrition. No sane company would move in to Illinois unless it was to curry political favor in Chicago as Boeing moving their HQ (no production) did. Who Makes Rock River Arms? Especially ones outside Chiraq. I was a dedicated 1911 guy and really wanted to stick with something with a grip safety like the EMP contour or even the R-51. This year, State Senator Don Harmon needed IFMA to end their opposition to his bill. The company is based in Genesco Illinois, near Chicago. Divide & conquer. Damage done. because Im sure you dont live in illinios. Do you rednecks and white trash go out of your way to get the their wrong every single time? Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. They can spout their support of the 2A all day, just like Shannon Watts does, but its just words. Magpul moved to WY. S&W was owned by a British company who were forced to sell their company for pennies on the dollar. Rock River Arms built its reputation on quality semi-automatic AR-pattern rifles and 1911 handguns. see: gasoline supply during any natural disaster where the govt threatens to prosecute profiteers. All have been accurate and reliable. To whom will they sell? If truth about guns knows whats good for them, theyll be taking this story down and apologizing publicly for spreading untrue assumptions. Good for them, too. Sadly, some of the collar county Repubs arent so much. Its pretty much just SA and RRA (and maybe a few tiny shops, but those are pretty much the only two big gun makers in Illinois). The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. Ive never had an issue with CTD in a decade. In my collection i have a M1A, a Socom 16, a XDM in 45 and a XDmod2 in 9mm. They have a good ongoing business, why jeopardize it? That being said, even if we do, Springfield is done as a company. No wonder were in trouble, POTG are clueless. If you sell more than 9 guns per year, you are in the business of selling guns. Weve even got a state-centric message board/forum promoting gun rights. I dont buy imported guns so SA & RRA are not going to loose any sales because of me. Up yours Springfield! There is NOTHING I need from a company that is obviously manipulating the system for themselves. Sure, the majority will be DOA, but blue and swing states will see this get passed using this an example of good gun control that even firearms companies support. They ignored it. He was busted before for bribing a Colonel on a Salvadorean arms deal. Never a single problem, thousands of rounds. I posted a similar comment on another article about the same subject matter, but again, and for emphasis: SPRINGFIELD IS DEAD TO ME. I ended up buying an Honor Defense Honor Guard. Very pleased with it, as it has most of the features I wanted on a CC weapon. Just to be clear, they are using the name of the original company of Springfield, but they are not located in the city of Springfield. CMMG .300 blackout will become my next purchase. They must be put out of business for their treachery. If this bill actually passes, I think the hit should be pretty severe. Didnt you read this article? Rock Rivers LAR-15 NSP CAR is a lightweight, reliable, well-made and accurate AR carbine that is ready for duty right out of But it will be history at my house. With support like that, who needs Everytown? And gun control wins, like this keep the gravy train flowing so they can continue to draw a paycheck and keep on going. How is he still employed? No offense intended. You write as though weve been asleep. CTD is my last choice. We can live without them much better than they can live with out us. Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. It washis lobbyist whostood aside on a bill that rations everyday Illinoisans to nine firearm transfers per year. WebRock River Arms Two Stage Match Trigger Kit4.5-5 lbThe RRA match AR trigger kit is designed for AR-15 and AR-10 Mil-Spec lower receivers with .154 trigger and hammer pins. People Of The Gun have long memories. Please focus on customer relations and positioning strategies. If signed into law, the bill his lobbyist declined to oppose will drive many dealers out of business with its onerous and expensive restrictions and requirements. So how is screwing your customer base over a sound business strategy? You should buy a BCM, Daniel Defense, or LWRC. Ruger, S&W, Springfield, Rock River, Ive seen people complain about Glock and Colt, Hex Mag, and about a dozen more. Wow, the article on Reese is incredible. I just bought an EMP 3-inch. You see once you jump in bed with the marketing types and throw millions at image you quickly discover that your rudder fell off long ago and now youre not sure what you stand forif anything. Bullshit. In fact, I own a Springfield M1A Scout Squad that they gave me free of charge after I encountered a series of malfunctions with an old SAR8. They pulled the same crap for the Clinton ban, Amen almost bought a springfield I agree with you to hell with them sig glock ruger for me here on out. Might see if you can find one to test out. For folks like me, it is no longer enough to be willing to fight and die for these rights, but to be willing to kill for them as well. This story is libel. When S&W is in the position to potentially block anti-gun legislation but decides not to because it is better for their business even if it screws their customers, THEN YOU WILL SEE ME call for an S&W boycott. CTD does our best to price our products at market value. I have a Rock River PDS carbine. As far as Im concerned, Smith and Wesson are still shit given they operate in communist MA and they should have packed up an left after what that bitch Maura Healey did last year. Illinois cant shut down a business that way No there is no way around it, RRA and Springfield decided their Illinois customers where not worth the trouble. Other places have them for $200.00. when supply cant meet demand, then the price increases.. this draws more suppliers into the market to meet demand and you see the price decrease. 2nd Amendment Supporters are up in "Arms" pun intended about the News broken by The Truth About Guns article concerning recent state licensing for all Illinois gun dealers that IFMA (Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association) a lobbying group back by Springfield Armory and Rock River theyre NOT trapped in Illinois,they can relocate,same as other gun companies have done. Cant this fool see how much this is going to hes going to hurt his own pocketbook for this tiny edge? Accurate and precise for F$&@ Ruger too! The XD and Saint are good guns, but they really arent all that different from a lot of other good guns on the market. Its not just selling, genius. Enjoy shooting it, and the second one if you buy one. So how is screwing your loyal customer base and flipping them the bird to their faces sound business policy? Its not difficult. No, they stood by and let their customers get screwed. Dennis Reeses statement to TTAGon IFMAs deal was insulting. F them. Lobbying groups run on a lot of assumptions and they dont take a vote from membership every time a change is made to a bill that they think concerns their members. Helps to have the older experience but not insurmountable. If that hurts a company whos sold you out, good. You can learn to make good parts on a CNC a lot faster than on a Bridgeport or SouthBend. And now a sell out. Rock River Arms, Incorporated is a manufacturing company in Colona, Illinois that manufacturers parts and accessories for AR-15 / M16 type rifles, as well as other firearms. Rock River Arms is owned and operated by brothers Mark and Chuck Larson. Between 1981 and 1991 the Larsons worked at Springfield Armory, Inc., where Mark was the head armorer. Springfield for intention; RRA for negligence. Sellouts. There is a story of a guy that got run out of business after a hurricane because he jacked his prices up for generators. How did Ruger even survive to do a turn-around? Now Im off to call Cabelas and inform them of SAs treachery and why i will not buy from them as long as they carry SA product, http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/search.cmd?recordsPerPage=18&No=0&N=0&nl=true&Ntk=AllProducts&Ntt=Springfield+Armory&search=Search. I totally agree Travis. Taurus? Springfield Armory *deserves* to be pitchforked and torched. Hugely disappointing. Tony- IFMA is SAs and RRAs lobbying firm(as opposed to an existing firm that SA hired. If people werent buying at these prices than there would be no market. Whats the hangup for SA? My 1911 search continues and Ill never purchase a Springfield. Now for 2022, the company ups the game for hunters with the introduction of the All-Terrain Hunter (ATH) , a mid-length rifle that stands tall in the field of AR-platform hunting rifles. Rock River Arms (RRA) has introduced a new AR-style rifle to its lineup, designed specifically with the modern hunter in mind, with the new All Terrain Hunter (ATH). SA, who knows, maybe they can retool to make manure spreaders. Rock River Arms guarantees this pistol will shoot 2.5-inch groups at 50 yards with 185-grain Federal Gold Medal Match semi-wadcutter ammo. Magpul moved. As the old adage goes, put up or shut up. What would you have done differently if you ran SA or RRA with a workforce that is similarly trapped in soviet Illinois and depends on your company staying open and profitable to keep their jobs? In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved.. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. As if they want to implode. Rock River Arms has IF WE LOSE RRA BECAUSE OF THIS HYSTERICAL REACTION, thats a blow to liberty. Start by giving everyone involved a TSA-style probe. All things considered, a Henry Big Boy in .44mag is more likely to see the inside of my safe than a M1A1. If you do a little digging, you will find they were importing 1911s from Brazil in the early days too. Maybe then you can explain it to the pussy who wrote this article. This new model is the latest in the growing line of rifles and pistols based on the RRAGE platform. Not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but check out Fulton Armory: http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. There is too much crap that I dont have a choice on (can you believe EVERY RV tire is made in China? And whats worse, if it passes, Bloomberg will attempt to duplicate this legislation in all 50 states. See below for more information. There never was a Henry fi rearms company (until 2002). My sprinters were not seeing much action lately. Thank you for bringing this issue to the forefront. You can not name another firearms manufacture today that has done more than Ruger to support the NRA, the 2A and firearms owners. Were pulling out of IFMA and regret that this happened. WebRock River Arms AR15 Uppers for Sale at Joe Bob Outfitters! We there the courts kill the law or the governor vetoes it, nothing changes the sellout by Springfield. However, if youre willing to spend a little extra money on your rifle, Rock River Arms is definitely worth considering. Nice deal on it until 4 July as well. Easy there tough guy. You cannot exempt large businesses from onerous regulations that you impose on small businesses. Its their prerogative. These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. I have an SA Profesional that I really like and was strongly considering a Custom Carry, but this turn of events gives me a real pause to that idea. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? This was a bit disingenuous because, basically, both companies were Hindsight is always 20/20 and the Liberal Dems are always after our Firearms Freedoms. Last Updated. Pick something and follow it. WebRock River Arms creates high quality rifles and pistols on the AR platform. Any combination of buying or selling that exceeds 9 is a crime if youre not a dealer. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. Their entire C Suite should resign and they need to prove themselves. You wont be able to pull a fast one and expect to not get called out on it. Im sorry, I mean they would ask after putting you and your fliers in the dumpster. We picked up a few seats last fall, but that simply moved the average ideology of the Dem members further left in our state legislature. I have a BM-59 kit that still needs to be built. Built on the companys RRAGE upper and lower receiver and handguard assemblies, the pistol delivers a sleek profile. Dam I just bought a new ranger officer model.Had I know this earlier I would not have bought it. thats the one ive just stopped considering. They fixed the old rifle, returned it to me and offered me the M1A for all the troubles I had experienced. Id bet a bunch of employees would jump at the chance go move from IL to TN or MO or TX. Tell us more about your experience in running a business. Ive spoken with a couple of bigger dealers in Illinois in the past 24 hours. For those who missed it, we broke the story late Thursday evening. An M1A was at the top of my wish list that I saving for. Olympic Arms continued this legacy with its OA-93, OA-96 and OA-98 models. When I explained that sales were still legal before the SAFE Act deadline went into force, they still refused. Fight it. Oh yes, the Senator behind the bill has many skeletons, http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/illinois-state-senator-don-harmon-law-firm-makes-millions-from-state-agencies-pension-funds-the-watchdogs-oak-park/. He kept his marginal Mini-14 from hitting the list, selling out the gun owner in the process! thats what Illinois is hoping for stand our ground, Springfield got me right in my Grip Zone with this move, bu-bye SA. Id say they are a step above most other production 1911s. Cant beat that! We need more FFLs down here so there will be some competition. This Rock River PCC shows itself to be a well-engineered carbine ready to work (and look good doing it). How many model airplanes can I buy, sell or trade in one year? Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Like a shrewd negotiator, Harmonhappily added a manufacturer and big box retailer carve-out to the bill so he couldcobble together the last few votes he needed to get it through the Senate. The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller,traded that groups opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing PrairieState firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements. chamber also differ from the 5.56 mm NATO chamber Everyone (hopefully) recognizes that Bloomberg et al use bad legislation in NY and elsewhere as models to sell to politicians elsewhere, hence the need to use all available legal avenues to demonstrate the fallout from such actions. 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